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Who is your mother Jon Snow?
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Quote:Θα εξακολουθήσω να διαφωνώ σε αυτό το κομμάτι. Πρώτα από όλα οι KG δεν είχαν καμία δουλειά να πάνε με τον Viserys, όσο ζούσε ο Aerys και ο Rhaegar. Οι Kingsguard είναι ορκισμένοι να :
Quote:...they are sworn to protect their king and his family with their own lives, to obey his commands, and to keep his secrets.
Που πάει να πει ότι δόθηκε εντολή να φυλάξουν το Tower of Joy. Χρονικά, αν ελέγξεις τα γεγονότα πιστεύω πως δεν συμπίπτουν έτσι ώστε την εντολή να την έδωσε ο Mad King, και να βρίσκονταν ήδη στο ToJ. Την εντολή πρέπει να την έδωσε ο Rhaegar, και οι Kingsguard αποφάσισαν να ακολουθήσουν την εντολή του μελλοντικού Βασιλιά τους (είτε σαν διαδόχου, είτε αν γνώριζαν και συμμετείχαν στο σχέδιο του Rhaegar να \"ανατρέψει\" τον πατέρα του).
Το ToJ έγινε μετά το Sack of KL όποτε και ο Aerys και ο Rhaegar ήταν νεκροί. Όποτε ο όρκος του μετατίθενται στον επόμενο τη ιεραρχία ο όποιος θα ήταν ο Viserys.
Quote:Τώρα, γιατί έδωσε την εντολή ο Rhaegar, δεν μπορούμε να ξέρουμε. Μπορεί γιατί είχε παντρευτεί την Λυάννα, μπορεί γιατί η Λυάννα κυοφορούσε το παιδί του, μπορεί απλά για να την έχει σαν όμηρο απέναντι στους επαναστάτες, μπορεί απλά γιατί την αγαπούσε, μπορεί γιατί η Λυάννα ήταν έγκυος (ή είχε γεννήσει ήδη) στο παιδί του Robert (παράδειγμα).
Εντολή από τον Rhaegar δεν μετανοεί αν υπάρχει αντίθετη εντολή από τον Aerys και για να υπάρχει σημαίνει ότι ένας νόμιμος Tar ήταν στον πύργο.
Quote:Επίσης, το ότι ο Jon γεννήθηκε το 283 AL, είναι απλά μια υπόθεση, δεν είναι γεγονός. Μην ξεχνάμε πως στην συγκεκριμένη εποχή οι ηλικίες δεν είναι τόσο εμφανείς και χαρακτηριστικές, βλέπε τον Robb, που έγινε King in the North 15 χρονών !!!!
Kαι πάλι το ποτέ γεννήθηκε ο Jon δεν είναι θεωρεία. Είναι στην ιδία ηλι8κια με τον Robb η διάφορα μεταξύ ενός δίχρονου και ενός νεογέννητου ο ίδιος ο Μαρτίν λέει ότι ήταν ισα.
Quote:We know from this e-mail that Jon’s birth is 8-9 months prior to Daenerys’s, and that Daenerys is born almost precisely 9 months after the death of Rhaegar and the Sack of King’s Landing (I: 25). This would place Jon’s birth within one month, give or take, of the Sack. As we know the war lasts “close” to a year which is often just referred to as a “year” (I: 96, 233), suggesting 10-11 months is likelier than 9 months. Given this, his conception seems to have been between 1-3 months into the war.
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